Does anyone know if you can request your original reinstatement letters back from the congregation.... mine contained too many specifics & personal information that I prefer for no one to know & have access to 2 elders of that committee are no longer there, I've been reinstated 4 yrs & had been DF'd for 3 years & i had wrote 3 letters until finally was acepted by 3rd one,..... has anyone attempted to get them back? Or can you?... what happens to them?... since TTAT I don't feel comfortable for anyone to know deeply private things I wrote in those lettrrs... helpp!!
Olivia Wilde
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KH reinstatement letters filed
by Olivia Wilde indoes anyone know if you can request your original reinstatement letters back from the congregation.... mine contained too many specifics & personal information that i prefer for no one to know & have access to 2 elders of that committee are no longer there, i've been reinstated 4 yrs & had been df'd for 3 years & i had wrote 3 letters until finally was acepted by 3rd one,..... has anyone attempted to get them back?
since ttat i don't feel comfortable for anyone to know deeply private things i wrote in those lettrrs...
helpp!
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If More Did This - The Metropolitain Borefest Could Really Backfire
by berrygerry inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfw_txpmsj8
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Olivia Wilde
Poor boy soo sweet, I don't like when they are people are confrontational with JW,... honestly many JWs don't know what we do about TTATT & even Ray Franz commented about this in crises of conscience. ... it's not their fault they have been deeply influenced with the WT... captives of concept book said people can be won over either by 1 word or they can't be won by 1000 or something like that.... this situation could've been handled with more reasoning & tact.. just saying -
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The Last Time I Set Foot in a Kingdom Hall
by Oubliette insaturday, september 19th, 2015: .
earlier today snugglebunny posted a pic of today's "daily text" which is based on a paragraph from the november 15th, 2013 article.
that magazine contains the now infamous maxim: .
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Olivia Wilde
This was & is a very disturbing paragraph when it was discussed at our meeting last year & mind blogging how some commented that we must have explicit trust in the faithful & discrete slave & the direction given & it being a case of life or death.... i even remember seeing a pix of on the WT of pple in a basement, I'm sorry but it this paragraph reminded me of Jim jones at Jonestown... very disturbing -
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Has anyone seen this video?
by vinman inabout 4 months back, apostate lon posted a youtube video entitled watchtower society broadcasts pagan symbol.
i try not to believe in conspiracy theories but that symbol just doesn't belong there...hmm.
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I did watch the broadcast of Feb. On jw.org, this appears in the 47 minute I did find it interesting that they would show a symbol that basically matches the early books of russell they could've not shown that hmmmm... but it was strange they did .. are they implying russell earlier books were inspired by the satan who transforms himself as an angel of light? & we should discard when it comes to TTATT?.... CRAZY -
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reaching out: Need circuit assembly dates and locations: my stomach hurts just saying this and requesting this
by goingthruthemotions inwithout giving up to much info about myself.
does anyone know where i could get a list of circuit assembly dates and locations for the western united states.
you all know that my brainwashed wife is still in.
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Olivia Wilde
Goingthrutheemotions, i have called the assembly hall directly & they will give you the days & times, I've done that many times when I want to go to one that is outside my congregations circuit... find out the assembly hall in your area Google for their # & call them, someone would either give u the dates or there is a recording....best wishes -
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Going Nuclear - Marriage
by Sofia Lose inhas anyone here gone nuclear on their spouse and, all of a sudden, came out in the open as a jw opposer?.
by this i mean, sitting them down and saying: i no longer want to be a jw anymore, do not want to go to meetings or preaching anymore!
and, what has happened in the relationship after that?.
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Sofia Lose...
Soo sorry your going thru this, but stay strong. .. i agree with one who said to bring up your doubts in family worship night but do it more like it was suggested, someone at wirk, etc asked you, "how do you know for sure that Jehovah chose your religion back in 1914-1919, & u responded to that person well we went thru a spiritual inspection based on the "quality" spiritual food being served at that time & that's why we say we were chosen by Jesus.." then u can ask ur hubby to help you research old watchtower & publications from the KH library & ask other older JWS if they have publications served during that time & by that hopefully he can also discover with you the TTAT, & if you cant find those publications express to ur hubby how important this information is to you both as JWs & reach to ithers if tgey have them so t he 2 of u can have a response to all who question our "truth"... that you want to be like Paul giving a public defense of your faith to those ask u asking it, quote the scripture, .... if he discovers he can't find anyone who has them, just say "that's odd, i would think that something soo important & historic in our history would be soo readily available to us in the KH library or ordered-requested from the WT so we can use that with others out in the ministry to prove we have the truth, don't you think it's strange?" ..... i find that works to get them thinking, I had one jw say that makes perfect sense.... seeding doubts with reasonING works best instead of throwing accusations it puts the hard core JW in defense where they don't listen to anything. ... Jesus did the same to his apostles & the pharises.... best wishes to you
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Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate
by goingthruthemotions injust on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.
you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.
up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.
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Olivia Wilde
I agree with Steve & Ricky G, you u to tell her you married her & not tge religion.... approach your concerns in a positive way, & be affectionate with her in that way she would realize your love for her is independent of her & your religious beliefs.... woman le to be loved & kept on their toes give her admiration .... then down the road give your family worship a history study on the JW with the proclaimers book & use the references there to do ur own research & introduce the copies of the actual watchtowers, u can find them on the internet being taught in the 1900s, & say "oh look at here what it actually says on the WT" playing u didn't know avoiding malice though but playing it guillable, say u want to have family worship night & bring the proclaimers book... just a thought. .. but I agree every marriage should have intimacy & the more the better I feel just as strong as you about it jejeje -
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How to evade questions from elders when you stop going out door to door
by Olivia Wilde indue to circumstances right now i cannot leave permanently the watchtower, however i need honest advice of what to say when elders question me how come im not meeting the group out for door to door & going out in " field service"... what would be proper responses not to draw suspicions since i'm aware of ttatt.. .any serious advice please...
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Olivia Wilde
@Giordano that is also a good point to make and believe it or not there is a registered Sex offender in the congregation, I don't know all the circumstances and what happened, actually I heard the story years ago but then I thought he was found innocent based on what I had heard, but then I thought if he was innocent why did he had to register then? I don't allow my child going alone inside the KH anywhere even when saying hello to little friends my child's age,..,, something to note I was never made aware of there being a registered sex offender in the congregation for all I know there could be more. I ran into his photo checking the city I live in. ...I do plan to move halls since after finding he was indeed registered, we have strict state laws on that and I don't understand how can he be around or near children when I believe they are to keep certain distances, I have to look into it and be more observant what he does after meetings...
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How to evade questions from elders when you stop going out door to door
by Olivia Wilde indue to circumstances right now i cannot leave permanently the watchtower, however i need honest advice of what to say when elders question me how come im not meeting the group out for door to door & going out in " field service"... what would be proper responses not to draw suspicions since i'm aware of ttatt.. .any serious advice please...
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Olivia Wilde
All great ideas & i think now with your ideas I do have something in mind to say, I really don't want to say I'm depressed because I'm afraid they might use that done the road & call me a "mentally diseased" "apostate".... i love these elders & i know they mean well but since we are having CO visit in few weeks he mentioned he wanted to do a shepherding call cuz I haven't been out in door to door in months, the only hrs I'm reporting is my bible study with my child, since I want to teach him from the bible, i don't use any WT literature, reporting a few hrs a month so I don't draw too much suspition but they notice my decline in hrs.... & that is what prompted questions which I'm avoiding to walk by them -
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How to evade questions from elders when you stop going out door to door
by Olivia Wilde indue to circumstances right now i cannot leave permanently the watchtower, however i need honest advice of what to say when elders question me how come im not meeting the group out for door to door & going out in " field service"... what would be proper responses not to draw suspicions since i'm aware of ttatt.. .any serious advice please...
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Olivia Wilde
Due to circumstances right now I cannot leave permanently the watchtower, however I need honest advice of what to say when elders question me how come Im not meeting the group out for door to door & going out in " field service"... what would be proper responses not to draw suspicions since I'm aware of TTATT.. .any serious advice please...